{"id":13483,"date":"2016-03-22T19:30:17","date_gmt":"2016-03-23T00:30:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hcstx.org\/?p=13483"},"modified":"2016-03-22T19:30:17","modified_gmt":"2016-03-23T00:30:17","slug":"military-weapons-from-the-past-historical-weapons-found-in-libya-war-zone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/2016\/03\/22\/military-weapons-from-the-past-historical-weapons-found-in-libya-war-zone\/","title":{"rendered":"Military Weapons From the Past: Historical Weapons Found in Libya War Zone"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-13485\" src=\"https:\/\/hcsblogdotorg.files.wordpress.com\/2016\/03\/libya1.jpg\" alt=\"Libya\" width=\"185\" height=\"121\" \/><\/h1>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.armamentresearch.com\/\">Armament Research Services (ARES)<\/a> has a database of\u00a0Conflict Material (CONMAT), logging\u00a0arms and munitions documented within the illicit sphere in conflict and post-conflict zones. I have been working on co-athoring a report with N.R. Jenzen-Jones covering\u00a0Libyan arms trading conducted via social media platforms between November 2014 and November 2015 for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smallarmssurvey.org\/\">Small Arms Survey<\/a>. One of the interesting side benefits of digging through a database of thousands of documented arms is finding some particularly old items that have been wandering the planet for 50 or 100 years.<\/p>\n<p>For example, this Italian M91 Carcano cavalry carbine. It could have been lost during the North African campaigns of WWII, or could have come into the country at some other time thanks to Italy\u2019s colonial influence in Libya. It\u2019s chambered in 6.5mm (we can tell this from the rear sight configuration), and it actually not a bad little gun, contrary to its reputation (although this one has definitely seen better days).<\/p>\n<div class=\"post-bodycopy clearfix\">\n<div id=\"attachment_18215\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-18215 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.forgottenweapons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/carcano-cav.jpg\" alt=\"carcano cav\" width=\"932\" height=\"354\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">M91 Carcano cavalry carbine<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Here\u2019s another view \u2013 the folding spike is a bayonet (affixed to the gun to simplify a mounted cavalry trooper\u2019s ability to use it). The photographer appears to not realize that purpose, though, and seems to to be suggesting its use as an ad-hoc monopod.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_18214\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-18214 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.forgottenweapons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/carcano-cav-monopod.jpg\" alt=\"carcano cav monopod\" width=\"871\" height=\"440\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">\u201cI do not think that does what you think it does\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Here\u2019s another bolt action rifle documented in Libya; a No4 Lee Enfield. It\u2019s missing its magazine, but it most likely chambered for .303 British. Again, could have been lost during WWII or come into the country through any of a bunch of other routes.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_18216\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-18216 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.forgottenweapons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/lee-enfield.jpg\" alt=\"lee enfield\" width=\"844\" height=\"330\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Single shot without it\u2019s magazine\u2026<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>It\u2019s not just obsolete rifles that make an occasional showing, but also handguns. For example, Webley revolvers \u2013 both military and commercial pattern. Here is one of the Mk IV .38\/200 caliber examples documented in the ARES database:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_18217\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-18217 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.forgottenweapons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/webley-army.jpg\" alt=\"webley army\" width=\"955\" height=\"594\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Impressively, this gun\u2019s owner appears to actually have the proper ammunition for it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>And here\u2019s a smaller commercial pocket model (also a Mk IV, somewhat confusingly):<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_18218\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-18218 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/www.forgottenweapons.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/webley-pocket.jpg\" alt=\"webley pocket\" width=\"643\" height=\"468\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">A smaller Webley factory configuration intended for the civilian market.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>In some cases, the guns that do not show up in the database are as interesting as the ones that do. For example, the Mosin Nagant is curiously absent, although there are many documented examples of DP-27, PK\/PKM, Dragunov, and PSL. The ammunition is not lacking, and we have seen Mosins in other regional conflict zones \u2013 but they seem to be absent in Libya.<\/p>\n<p>If you are interested in the subject, you will definitely enjoy reading the full report when it is published in a few months. Stay tuned!<\/p>\n<p>Read the Original Article at<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.forgottenweapons.com\/a-few-historical-weapons-in-libya\/\"> Forgotten Weapons<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Armament Research Services (ARES) has a database of\u00a0Conflict Material (CONMAT), logging\u00a0arms and munitions documented within the illicit sphere in conflict and post-conflict zones. I have been working on co-athoring a report with N.R. Jenzen-Jones covering\u00a0Libyan arms trading conducted via social media platforms between November 2014 and November 2015 for Small Arms Survey. 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