{"id":12549,"date":"2016-03-02T15:32:12","date_gmt":"2016-03-02T21:32:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hcstx.org\/?p=12549"},"modified":"2016-03-02T15:32:12","modified_gmt":"2016-03-02T21:32:12","slug":"history-of-weapons-the-hill-h15-sub-machine-gun-was-ahead-of-its-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/2016\/03\/02\/history-of-weapons-the-hill-h15-sub-machine-gun-was-ahead-of-its-time\/","title":{"rendered":"History of Weapons: The Hill H15 Sub-Machine Gun was Ahead of it&#8217;s Time"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 style=\"text-align:center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-12551\" src=\"https:\/\/hcsblogdotorg.files.wordpress.com\/2016\/03\/h15.png?w=620\" alt=\"H15\" width=\"620\" height=\"291\" \/><\/h3>\n<h3 style=\"text-align:center;\">Today&#8217;s FN P90 drew inspiration from John Hill&#8217;s obscure weapon<\/h3>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Developed by engineer and inventor John Hill, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.historicalfirearms.info\/post\/131708571508\/hill-submachine-gun-developed-by-engineer-and\">Hill H15<\/a> submachine gun was decades ahead of its time. The H15 inspired the successful FN P90 but the Hill gun itself faded into obscurity.<\/p>\n<p>Hill began developing the idea for his futuristic-looking gun in the late 1940s, but it wasn\u2019t until the early 1960s that he built his first prototypes.<\/p>\n<div id=\"tt-wrapper861489\" class=\"tt-wrapper inread \">\u00a0The H15 fed from unique, clear-plastic single- or double-stack magazines which loaded into the top of the receiver. This magazine came pre-loaded and sealed with an aluminum cap.<\/div>\n<p>Magazine capacity varied with length. The H15 was chambered in 9\u00d719-millimeter and .380 ACP and was meant to be fired as a pistol. Its rate of fire was approximately 400 to 500 rounds per minute, making it quite controllable.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cdn.warisboring.com\/images\/20160302004757\/tumblr_inline_nwmzrms7XV1qapn73_500.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12544\" src=\"http:\/\/cdn.warisboring.com\/images\/20160302004757\/tumblr_inline_nwmzrms7XV1qapn73_500.png\" alt=\"tumblr_inline_nwmzrms7XV1qapn73_500\" width=\"500\" height=\"296\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6 style=\"text-align:center;\">One of Hill\u2019s H15 patents<\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>It did not have a semi-automatic capability and had very few controls, with a non-reciprocating charging handle and an unusual ambidextrous crossbolt safety with the safe position in the center.<\/p>\n<p>The visual similarities to the FN P90 are obvious. They both utilize a horizontal, longitudinally mounted feeding system. The main difference being that a \u201ctransfer disk\u201d or \u201cturntable\u201d feeding system is incorporated into the <em>action<\/em> of the H15 rather than the <em>magazine, <\/em>as with the P90, which has a spiral feed ramp rather than the turntable.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cdn.warisboring.com\/images\/20160302004747\/tumblr_inline_nwmqbo9UQQ1qapn73_500.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12542\" src=\"http:\/\/cdn.warisboring.com\/images\/20160302004747\/tumblr_inline_nwmqbo9UQQ1qapn73_500.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"338\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6 style=\"text-align:center;\">An H15, at top, and an Uzi. Via <em>Small Arms Review<\/em><\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Another shared characteristic is the weapons\u2019 ejection. Both drop spent cases from the bottom of receiver through the grip. These similarities are likely more than coincidence, however. Hill was invited to the FN factory in Liege in 1963 and left a prototype of his submachine gun with FN for a number of years, which FN\u2019s engineers no doubt photographed and examined before returning.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s very likely that FN took design cues \u2014 if not specifics \u2014 from Hill\u2019s design, as two of Hill\u2019s patents are cited in FN\u2019s patent for the P90\u2032s feed system.<\/p>\n<p>The H15 weighed approximately 4.5 pounds unloaded with a metal receiver and plastic grip. In December 1953, the U.S. Ordnance Corps examined Hill\u2019s design at the Springfield Armory in Massachusetts. The gun at Springfield \u2014 which Frankford Arsenal in Pennsylvania apparently produced \u2014 had a more conventional wooden stock with the trigger at the rear, but still ejected downward near the front of the stock.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, the prototype that Springfield evaluated appeared to use an instantly recognizable MP40 barrel.<\/p>\n<p>The Ordnance Corps decided it wasn\u2019t interested in the design, no doubt because thousands of old M3 submachine guns were still in the U.S. Army\u2019s inventory. Hill made some overtures to law enforcement agencies, but ultimately the H15 never entered service with any agency or military.<\/p>\n<p>In the course of his sales effort, Hill approached several manufacturers. FN initially expressed interested in the design but dropped the project in 1965 due to the lack of interest from paying customers. At the time, FN was producing license versions of Uziel Gal\u2019s Uzi submachine gun.<\/p>\n<p>Hill also approached Colt, which estimated that the gun might cost $30 to $40 to manufacture.<\/p>\n<p>From 1953 through the early 1960s, the U.S. government granted Hill a number of patents covering elements of his design. Individuals and private manufacturing companies including FN scooped up the patents, but no one ever attempted large-scale production of Hill\u2019s weapon. Of the hundred or so that various arsenals built in small batches, perhaps only a dozen remain in working order today.<\/p>\n<p>Hill died in 1991 at the age of 96.<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.historicalfirearms.info\/post\/131708571508\/hill-submachine-gun-developed-by-engineer-and\">This story originally appeared at Historical Firearms.<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Read the Original Article as it is Seen Here at <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/warisboring.com\/articles\/the-hill-h15-submachine-gun-was-ahead-of-its-time\/?mc_cid=c0c108d320&amp;mc_eid=1149a36069\">War is Boring<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today&#8217;s FN P90 drew inspiration from John Hill&#8217;s obscure weapon &nbsp; Developed by engineer and inventor John Hill, the Hill H15 submachine gun was decades ahead of its time. The H15 inspired the successful FN P90 but the Hill gun itself faded into obscurity. Hill began developing the idea for his futuristic-looking gun in the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[5064,1286,24],"tags":[5062,5063,5065,3913],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12549"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12549"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12549\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12549"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12549"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thetacticalhermit.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12549"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}